"Eject" helmet removal system.

[Lynk]

I was leafing through an issue of Transworld Motocross today, and ran across an ad for what looks to be quite an effective solution for helmet removal. I'll bring this up at the general meeting on Wednesday; however, I'd like to have some initial impressions. Here is a link to the Manufacturer's product info page: http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/eject-automotorcycle-emergency-helmet-removal-kit.aspx.

Now, what would it take to get our track medics trained on such a system?

[piper907]

Arai designed an "assist hood" that is fairly simple to use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pfEWsUAKLk

http://www.araihelmet-europe.com/2009/downloads/manuals/ENG%20AssistHood%20Resceu.pdf

[MadManx]

I like the idea and think some sort of "easy" helmet removal assist be made mandatory.

[Mr Sunshine]

I like the idea and think some sort of "easy" helmet removal assist be made mandatory.


Why mandatory? Its the rider's body at stake here and they can decide what they want to do with it.

[Parker]

I am a big advocate of safety and believe it is responsibility of the members of the association to help the association make it safer by suggesting new ways to protect us. I like the idea and until now did not know such a thing existed.

+ 1 to Mr. Hall.

That being said if Mr. Sunshine wants to race in shorts and a pair of flip flops then we should ask the club to let him.

[tjones23]

Arai designed an "assist hood" that is fairly simple to use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pfEWsUAKLk

http://www.araihelmet-europe.com/2009/downloads/manuals/ENG%20AssistHood%20Resceu.pdf

Neat. Simple, I assume effective and with no external dependancies (CO2 bottle, etc.). That we know if, is this only for Arai or can this system work with other helmets. Do other manufacturers (Shoei for instance) have similar systems?

"...These pictures are for purpose of explaining to you
how to remove the helmet with the hood, and are not the
scenes of an actual accident!..."

Tim

[piper907]

The helmet removal system that Arai designed works with ANY helmet... I was pleased to hear that they made a concious decision NOT to patent it. pretty respectable in my book.

[Mr Sunshine]

I am a big advocate of safety and believe it is responsibility of the members of the association to help the association make it safer by suggesting new ways to protect us. I like the idea and until now did not know such a thing existed.

+ 1 to Mr. Hall.

That being said if Mr. Sunshine wants to race in shorts and a pair of flip flops then we should ask the club to let him.

Great...you put it in your helmet....and you enjoy the benefits of it. I on the other hand will make up my own decision and do what I feel I need to do.

[tminus]

I believe that this is a great system, but with all the expense and very small fields and turn out this season I do not believe that making such a device mandatory would be perceived positively. Also I wont argue that there has been many neck and spine injuries to road racers through the years but could someone remind me when the last time one of these would have been used after a crash at a WMRRA event. As far as safety goes we could find endless items to help but after some point these kinds of decisions are the rider to make.

[piper907]

mandatory?... probly not.
BUT, these devices would be very useful after any crash where the rider is knocked out... The last time this happened would have been on saturday.

[tminus]

Good point this would be useful during that situation, but wouldnt the corner workers all have to have the air cartridge, so not only an expense to rider but club also?

[MadManx]

Good point this would be useful during that situation, but wouldnt the corner workers all have to have the air cartridge, so not only an expense to rider but club also?

Im hoping the corner workers will not be popping off your lid if it appears you may have a neck injury or unconscious. One would think that the EMT's do that.

[Mr Sunshine]

Im hoping the corner workers will not be popping off your lid if it appears you may have a neck injury or unconscious. One would think that the EMT's do that.

I would hope the corner workers wouldn't be popping off your lid....period. Either you are going to remove your lid or the EMT will. If the corner worker is a trained EMT helping the EMT's on staff...works for me.

[Lynk]

Oi! I've been away from this board for a while. I'm happy to see that others found interest in this system, as well.

... and I'm with Mr. Sunshine on the idea of a corner worker attempting to remove a riders helmet. No bueno!

[cee-jay]

Thanks for bringing this back up, seems like a good product. Just some thoughts that came to mind:

I can tell you (from work) that removing a helmet is a difficult job, especially if someone is unconscious, and the danger of a c-spine injury is present. Add the question of whether someone is breathing or not.....

Having practiced football helmet removal (I know....a little different) I can tell you that having something to aid in the removal would be quite helpful. It is somewhat difficult to apply the right kind of directional pressure to remove a helmet without it almost always being slightly awkward--meaning having the ability to compromise c-spine. How much? You really never know.

2 person job, and something untrained bystanders should never do unless in dire circumstance (respiratory problem) with help a long ways out.

It'd be interesting to try one.

Medics would have to know about it and how it worked before you could expect them to use it.

[odin544]

Something I noticed while looking at new helmets last night was the Arai "Emergency cheekpad release system". The cheek pads have pull-tabs on them so you can remove them while the helmet is still on someone.

This alone makes me lean towards an Arai when I buy a new helmet this winter.

[Lynk]

The new season is coming soon. I noticed one of these gadgets on MadManx's helmet. This is just a bump, so that everyone can see it. ;)

[THEFLAMINGLIPPS]

I think i"ll be getting one. I bet it will be stock on all their helmets soon. Then they'll be $1000 even. Can't wait for that.:(

[MadManx]

Thing is, I might have one, but chances are nobody has equipment (the pump) to use it or even knows how. Oh well, adds 2 ounces to total weight.

[piper907]

does anyone have a source for the helmet removal system that Arai designed???
I read about it a year ago or so but haven't found anywhere to buy it... It's a hood lookin' thing... no pump required.

[odin544]

I havent seen that anywhere. Just the cheek pad removal system, which is in the arai corsair-v and shoei x12.

Each system is a little different in how they operate. I checked them both out up close at the IMS. I was going to buy an arai, but after looking at the shoei system I felt it was a better design.

[MadManx]

Seem to be only available in Europe. My Teammate is sending me one.

[MadManx]

http://www.zombieware.com/pics/2010/arai_hood1.jpghttp://www.zombieware.com/pics/2010/arai_hood2.jpg

[hayseedracer]

I was reading in a mag. today that all Pro AMA racing is going to require this.

[Caps2000]

I'd be very, very curious to read both those manuals.

[piper907]

Waddaya think it would take to have your teammate send you one of those puppies for me??? been trying to get my hands on one for a while.

[Mr Sunshine]

Corson give these guys a shout. http://www.theservicepavilion.com/index.html

They get some interesting Arai stuff...like my double walled rain visor which came from Japan.

[piper907]

Thanks Chris,
Those rain visors are SWEEEET. I had a buddy come back from japan with one... very jealous ;)

[MadManx]

$20.00
You can get a RS Taichi Helmet Remover System (exactly like the Arai)

https://www.motoliberty.com/prod_detail.asp?Prod_ID=959