WMRRA Pxxxxies!

[Ed Who?]

Well since i had to miss Spokompton due to work and such, i wanna call out you WMRRA guys that "THINK" your fast, got speed, whatever...come on...if Spokane's long straight is your calling...bring that shxt to OMRRA this weekend for the PIR straight AT SEA LEVEL! I wanna see Mike M, Eli E, and Ross D man up and come down...stop hiding in washington. Hell, even the 600's come on down... Current BEST ever lap record is Dan Wilson of a 1:06.3 on old configuration and 1:07.0 from Mike Sullivan on new configuration...the new one will be gone this weekend!!

here is my post on OMRRA forum... hope to see you guys here..should be EPIC racing this weekend! Otherwise we'll see you guys all next WMRRA round (sorry DL...im not going anywhere!)

BEEHIVE KICK!

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All im gonna say is


FU!





as in Formula Ulimited. THIS will be a race to watch this weekend! I am going to post up/bet that if you cannot do a 1:06.9 or faster you will not be on the podium! Not gonna happen. Maybe Al? Maybe DPW (now with electronics that WORK) Maybe Ancien? Maybe Sullivan? Maybe Lippis? Maybe...YOU??

Watch..im telling you guys..its gonna be GOOD!..the track is GOOD right now....the weather looks like 75-76degs slight wind....man..i think if someone is pushed, the track record even might be broken from the old configuration......

Everyone better bring their A game...late nights and LONGGGGGGG hours paying off big time..found a few hp on some of the top bikes http://www.omrra.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif and with conditions like this, Al and Chris also running good....should be awesome.

Now if we could just get those WMRRA puxxies like Mike M, Eli E, and Ross D to come down and show us "the washington speed"...we could have a 10+ battle BATTLE ROYALE!

See you ladies there....
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[Allister Squid #121]

Funds are low for many, but it would be nice to see more our gang go to OMRRA.

I plan on racing at least one sprint race and mabye the endurance.

I'll admit it will be tough to knock off the really, really fast OMRRA specialists, but I'm sure WMRRA would represent well, we have a very deep and talented grid.

And for once, will more of the OMRRA guys come and race at WMRRA?

No?

I have an answer.... combine the clubs... 3 races PIR, 3 races PRW, 2 races SRP, 2 races ORP.... that would be a real regional championship...and the one track wonders would soon be weeded out by more versitile racers...

[Ed Who?]

Funds are low for many, but it would be nice to see more our gang go to OMRRA.

I plan on racing at least one sprint race and mabye the endurance.

I'll admit it will be tough to knock off the really, really fast OMRRA specialists, but I'm sure WMRRA would represent well, we have a very deep and talented grid.

And for once, will more of the OMRRA guys come and race at WMRRA?

No?

I have an answer.... combine the clubs... 3 races PIR, 3 races PRW, 2 races SRP, 2 races ORP.... that would be a real regional championship...and the one track wonders would soon be weeded out by more versitile racers...


Allister, i agree..i have been BEATING UP as many OMRRA guys i can to get them to come up to OMRRA as well...but honestly IMO the #1 reason is NOT travel, money, etc..its the TRACK. SIR is a POS! PERIOD! HUGE props to those that still race/do well there.

Why else are so many ex wmrra guys not doing it anymore?? its not safe/good track.

now i have hope thou with SpoKOMPTON back! I think a lot of OMRRA guys love that track.

I just wanna see ALL The top guys in the NW battling it out...not 1-3 guys, but 10+

:beerchug:

[Allister Squid #121]

Why else are so many ex wmrra guys not doing it anymore?? its not safe/good track.


:beerchug:


Sand in the you know what...

Its a fun and technical track, mabye not as safe as some, but a little common sense goes a long way. And we seem to get around it OK...

Stupid hurts, no matter what track you race...

Spokane is better and getting EVEN BETTER! The track managment was stoked that we were there!!!

They have made a couple of safety improvements, including real run off in T1 with pea gravel and everything... They intend to to have big run off in T2

If the re-config ever happens (a definite mabye at this point) Spokane will be a super fun, safe and technically challenging track. prolly the best track in the NW.

Still like the idea of one REAL regional championship...

[Ed Who?]

no offense man, but NO ONE looks/rides Seattle and goes "tracks not bad" those that are still going fast are just that, fast riders. But IMO its not safe! Turn 2 is HORRIBLE and how the owners of the track can WALK ON T2 and say "this is ok" is beyond me! Just my $.02

Im all about Spokane...i just couldnt make this weekend with racers in WMRRA, AFM and our AMA events going on at the same time and work load...some of us help/tune more than 4-5 bikes :) but man i cant wait...i love Spokane and love how WMRRA runs things this year (and last even)..i just hate watching my friends/customers/racers banging bars around Seattle...again just my $.02

i still wanna see a REAL NWRRA (North West RoadRacing Association) or more like the NWRR Cup...kinda like what i tried to get rollin last year... 3 events at PIR, 2 at Spokane, 2 at ORP and 1 at Seattle (if we must)....that would be cool!!!

[XLSR169]

no offense man, but NO ONE looks/rides Seattle and goes "tracks not bad" those that are still going fast are just that, fast riders. But IMO its not safe! Turn 2 is HORRIBLE and how the owners of the track can WALK ON T2 and say "this is ok" is beyond me! Just my $.02

Im all about Spokane...i just couldnt make this weekend with racers in WMRRA, AFM and our AMA events going on at the same time and work load...some of us help/tune more than 4-5 bikes :) but man i cant wait...i love Spokane and love how WMRRA runs things this year (and last even)..i just hate watching my friends/customers/racers banging bars around Seattle...again just my $.02

i still wanna see a REAL NWRRA (North West RoadRacing Association) or more like the NWRR Cup...kinda like what i tried to get rollin last year... 3 events at PIR, 2 at Spokane, 2 at ORP and 1 at Seattle (if we must)....that would be cool!!!

I agree that PR needs some work as well as Spokane. But the facts are this out of the three track I can speak for not yet ridding ORP. PR is the funnest track to ride and PIR is the least fun in fact it is the least fun of any track that I and many I have spoken to have ridden in all of the west coast. That said it is in the best shape out of them all. I would like to see us ride the tracks equally in order of best weather in said areas. 2 times per year at each of the four tracks. maybe with a final 9th Championship weekend in a rotation each year...

Just my $.02

[piper907]

I have an answer.... combine the clubs... 3 races PIR, 3 races PRW, 2 races SRP, 2 races ORP.... that would be a real regional championship...and the one track wonders would soon be weeded out by more versitile racers...:beerchug:

It would be SOOOO cool to see something like this come to be...

get to work hippie!!!! :bigsmile:

[D_Rail]

I can't think of any one person that doesn't want to see a NW Regional type championship. My question is, why hasn't it been done if there is so much support for it? :(

[Allister Squid #121]

no offense man, but NO ONE looks/rides Seattle and goes "tracks not bad" those that are still going fast are just that, fast riders. But IMO its not safe! Turn 2 is HORRIBLE and how the owners of the track can WALK ON T2 and say "this is ok" is beyond me! Just my $.02

Im all about Spokane...i just couldnt make this weekend with racers in WMRRA, AFM and our AMA events going on at the same time and work load...some of us help/tune more than 4-5 bikes :) but man i cant wait...i love Spokane and love how WMRRA runs things this year (and last even)..i just hate watching my friends/customers/racers banging bars around Seattle...again just my $.02

i still wanna see a REAL NWRRA (North West RoadRacing Association) or more like the NWRR Cup...kinda like what i tried to get rollin last year... 3 events at PIR, 2 at Spokane, 2 at ORP and 1 at Seattle (if we must)....that would be cool!!!


Believe me, I don't take offense to you talking about a racetrack... Call me names, mebbe, but even then prolly not...I have been President for several years and have been called all kinds of names, don't hurt a bit.

I do disagree with you. T2 is OK, I would say its better than T2 at Spokane, and Spokane isn't that bad.

At Pacific, its T8 and the concrete barriers (kink) on the straight that are the real problem. But, as I said, a little common sense goes a long way.

For discussion, any regional championship would require rounds at Seattle. Its the largest customer base with the most riders.
Portland is close enough in size and proximity that it would need to weight equally (even though I tend to agree it's not a really "fun" track...)

The other tracks would require the majority of the racers to travel a substantial distance but ORP and SCR are about even as far as distance traveled.

From what I hear Spokane has better amenities, but whatever, I support ANY new track in the general NW area.

I think it's inevitable that the clubs combine at some level. It only makes sense. As far as I know there are no other clubs so close together competing for the same racer.

Seems silly.

And wouldn't it be fun to see the various fast guys banging bars outside their home-track/comfort zones?

[Allister Squid #121]

I can't think of any one person that doesn't want to see a NW Regional type championship. My question is, why hasn't it been done if there is so much support for it? :(

I don't think it has ever gotten past the paddock rumorr stage.
No one in an official position has really pursued it.

I'm not sure that I will...

If this flies, it would require real compromise from BOTH clubs. It would require an all new organization to oversee the new series. New management, by-laws, rules, etc..

The process would take a HUGE amount of time, effort and dealing. The persons responsible would be subject to abuse and condemnation. Some good expereinced volunteers would be either alienated or left out. Some new volunteers would need to step up.

Part of the problem is getting volunteers, managers and various club persons to be willing to relinquish their percieved "power" for the greater good of all.

And to convince riders that going to Seattle/Portland/Spokane/ORP is part of the deal. No exceptions.

I'm sure a couple racers would quit or raise a fuss. Miller and AFM are just down the road...

But what about the majority of the racers?

I dunno, thats why I have floated the idea on this forum a couple of times, and in general the response seems to be positive.

[piper907]

wouldn't it be fun to see the various fast guys banging bars outside their home-track/comfort zones?

that is EXACTLY what I am sayin' !!!

It is one thing to go fast around your home track... but it takes another level of racer to show up to a track that they don't ride all summer long, get the bike set-up and go fast... I have soo much respect for the national riders and even the club guys that are traveling around and putting the smack down outside of the NW for this reason... it's a whole different ball game... .02

[tjones23]

"Consolidate" to 3 x Portland, 3 x Seattle, 2 x Spokane or there about. Start in April end in October, no more that 2 months with 2 races per month. Otherwise its gets stoopid expensive to do IMHO.

Tim

[theJrod]

I'd be in full support of this.

I'd argue that while Pacific undoubtedly has spots you do NOT want to ever crash in, the numbers probably (IMO) would show that it doesn't statistically have any more serious crashes than other tracks. But that's my ass talking. :)

A regional club makes so much sense it's not even funny anymore. I hope someday in my racing career it will be a reality.

[Jake952]

Allister - please speak to Do Kim and get a dialog going. why not?

Do Kim - please speak to Allister and get a dialog going. why not?

Both of you are really reasonable and personable - I'm a big fan of both presidents of both clubs. What better time than now to push the NWRR series beyond paddock rumor. O-ten could be the year!

And guys - Portland is only boring if you're going slow, no offense! Once you start having two wheel drifts through T3 it's not boring at all. The T1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 flow is pretty awesome, and the new T4 added A LOT of flavor to the track. I do hate the dragstrip straight, but at least the pavement is nice and there's good run off nearly everywhere.

[Ed Who?]

ok Allister


2 Seattle
2 Portland
1 Spokane
1 ORP

Wiener take all :bigok:

[MikeM]

ok Allister


2 Seattle
2 Portland
1 Spokane
1 ORP

Wiener take all :bigok:

I was actually planning on coming down untill I found out Suzuki only pays out in open SS and not FU. Lame!

[jbcjr]

:clap::clap::clap::clap: Well put Jake - 2010 NWRR!!!
Allister - please speak to Do Kim and get a dialog going. why not?

Do Kim - please speak to Allister and get a dialog going. why not?

Both of you are really reasonable and personable - I'm a big fan of both presidents of both clubs. What better time than now to push the NWRR series beyond paddock rumor. O-ten could be the year!

And guys - Portland is only boring if you're going slow, no offense! Once you start having two wheel drifts through T3 it's not boring at all. The T1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 flow is pretty awesome, and the new T4 added A LOT of flavor to the track. I do hate the dragstrip straight, but at least the pavement is nice and there's good run off nearly everywhere.

[MikeM]

Sand in the you know what...

Its a fun and technical track, mabye not as safe as some, but a little common sense goes a long way. And we seem to get around it OK...

Stupid hurts, no matter what track you race...

Spokane is better and getting EVEN BETTER! The track managment was stoked that we were there!!!

They have made a couple of safety improvements, including real run off in T1 with pea gravel and everything... They intend to to have big run off in T2

If the re-config ever happens (a definite mabye at this point) Spokane will be a super fun, safe and technically challenging track. prolly the best track in the NW.

Still like the idea of one REAL regional championship...


:thumbsup:


I think I've seen more WMRRA guys going down there than OMRRA guys coming up here.

Who are the Puxxxies again??

[Blinky]

I can't see "combining" the clubs ever happening. They both need to exist as their own entity.

I would like to just see some communication and cooperation. I am not a racer but I get around enough to hear opinions from all sides.

Is there regular communication between associations? Exchange minutes of Board and GM meeting to just have an idea of what each is doing.

I will try to talk do Do this weekend about having an OMRRA member that lives somewhere like Olympia join WMRRA and spy on your meetings so that maybe the two groups would know what is going on.

[NoControl74]

I can't see "combining" the clubs ever happening. They both need to exist as their own entity.


This is an interesting perspective. Why do you think this?

[Blinky]

This is an interesting perspective. Why do you think this?
This is my reply on the OMRRA forum. As a volunteer it is much easier for me to just say " I don't need this" and disappear.

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They have both been doing their own thing for so long. Different classes, different if you will "management styles"

A joint venture is often more practical, efficient, and manageable than merging two existing organizations.

You have two organizations that have been doing things their own way for a long time and neither sees a reason for changing.

Are the racers from one group having to change to the others rules or do both have to change to compromise rules.

From a volunteer stand point I know that things are done differently by each organization. I guarantee you some 20 and 30 year OMRRA volunteers will not change to some WMRRA operation policies.

Have the two groups get together and come up with a few classes with common rules and race all of the tracks for a NW series.

In my opinion, and it is more so than it was a few years ago OMRRA and WMRRA seem to deny the existence of the other orginazation.

The preceding statement is the opinion of a non racing member of OMRRA who has opinions about what he sees

[The Wizard]

I can't think of any one person that doesn't want to see a NW Regional type championship. My question is, why hasn't it been done if there is so much support for it? :(

You guys just missed the opening 2 rounds of the Western Canadian Championship. We were able to get a series together between 3 CLUBS in 2 Provinces that are all about a 10 hour drive away from each other. It can be done, and we have had good success so far. We had a total of 7 classes and came up with a points scoring system, gridding system and ways to "match up" classes as all 3 clubs had different rule books. We are running the races concurrently with regular club events, not seperate stand alone rounds. So, you race that club regular round, you are getting WCC points whether you like it or not!

WMRRA and OMRRA execs can contact me for more info on the logistics and such, I would be happy to discuss.

Ryan Whittle
WMRC President

[Ed Who?]

:thumbsup:


I think I've seen more WMRRA guys going down there than OMRRA guys coming up here.

Who are the Puxxxies again??


exactly my point Mike WHY is that??


As for Puxxies...i was joking with you guys, you know that. I just wanna see you eli and ross come to pir sometime since i cant get wilson ancien schimdt bluth to come up there.

Maybe spokane if WMRRA brings back the SHOOTOUT thing again??


:beerchug:

[Speeddealer]

Fkit. Get someone to someone (Eric has lots of $$$$) to sponsor a N.W. 3 race shootout class and post $3000+ for the overall win at Spo,PIR, and Pacific. And they will drive fo sure.

F.Y.I. There was a Westcoast 600 Superbike shootout around 1990 which was ran at Sears Point,PIR, and SIR (Dating myself) I think Steve Rapp won it on a 4X6.

Racing in Canada? I use to drive to Westwood and Calgary, great tracks but I think the current border B.S. would make to tough - half the racers probably
would not make it through ; )

[Ed Who?]

Fkit. Get someone to someone (Eric has lots of $$$$) to sponsor a N.W. 3 race shootout class and post $3000+ for the overall win at Spo,PIR, and Pacific. And they will drive fo sure.



yeahh...PILES of it! :rolleyes:

I DID step up last year Dave, put up a $1,000 CASH my own personal money! The clubs matched, so $2,000 and know what?? nothing happened. Plus it was poorly ran amongst the two clubs (no one persons fault)

Maybe its time for Lannigan to put up some CASH? :dancingchili::dancingchili:

[El Cuervo]

I wonder if rather than make it a $$ thing - since no one has any - you made it a 'plates' thing.

what if both clubs gave up their plates and the only 5 plates we gave out were for the results of 6-7 race weekends we chose across both clubs.

you still race by the local club's rules. you could make it 10 plates rather than 5 as well - to make sure enough folks are recognized.

as I will never get a plate - this is an easy change. it might get the fast guys to cross over.

Just a thought - probably heretical. But that #1 plate would mean a lot...

[Allister Squid #121]

I'm all for a NW cup or whatever.

EDR stepped up BIG TIME last year and the clubs put in some cash and poof...
Still pretty much the same thing... Nada... No OMMRRA guys (except the Zlock team) at WMRRA and the same WMRRA guys at OMRRA.

I think we should combine.

I think some entrenched volunteer/staff types (from BOTH clubs) will resist and will want to keep the status quo if for no other reason that to retain their "power".

Aside from a very few whiners, I think the racers will race wherever there are races. Thats one thing I have noticed, racers race.

If the WA guys have nowhere else to race, they will race portland. I hear more rumors of OMRRA types not wanting to race Pacific, but if they have no choice my guess is they will race.


I may take this on, but not during this race season.
In order to realy tackle this task will take time and effort.
Probably at least a year, mabye more to get all the herds, empires, clicks and members moving in the same direction.

I joined WMRRA to race.

I volunteered in order to fix some things I saw that were broken. With alot of good help we have accomplished much for the good of the club.

My heart is still in it for the light to go out... This year I'm racing.

[theJrod]

:thumbsup:


I think I've seen more WMRRA guys going down there than OMRRA guys coming up here.

Who are the Puxxxies again??lol Point made!

[ducatiduane]

"Consolidate" to 3 x Portland, 3 x Seattle, 2 x Spokane or there about. Start in April end in October, no more that 2 months with 2 races per month. Otherwise its gets stoopid expensive to do IMHO.

Tim


I really like this idea. ORP and Spokane could be ran at the beginning/end of the season. We all know what the weather is usually like in April and October in both Portland and Seattle....

Also I could in no way see this happening in 2010. Its something that would need to be planned, not a spur of the moment change. That way a rule book, by laws etc could be worked out well in advance. I'd say shoot for 2012 or something.