Safety Wire Rear Sprocket bolts

[noob_racer]

I was checking the rule book and didnt see anything about needing to safety wire the bolts that hold in the rear sprocket, can someone clarify whether or not I need to? :headscratch:

[The Squid]

You do no need to safety wire those bolts. Concerning the rear wheel area you need to have safety wired:

The axle bolt
Brake caliper mounting bolts
Exhaust mounting bolts

Also, if you haven't already gotten some metal valve stem caps that have rubber inside of them, those too are required.

Missing anything Phil?

[noob_racer]

Thanks for the info Will, this will save me a lot of headache.

[The Squid]

No problem, I'm always eager to help a fellow racer out, especially someone new to the club.

See you at the track!

[w00tw00t]

reviving this thread- - anyone know where I can find these rounded metal valve stem caps?

[dakh]

Vivek, sb motorsports usually has a handfull of those, http://sbmotorsports.com/.

[pscook]

reviving this thread- - anyone know where I can find these rounded metal valve stem caps?

Schucks. Action Auto. Napa. Probably Joe's Sports. Any automotive store will have these valve stem caps, just don't get the novelty dice ones or the fancy blinking things. I think that they are $2.99 for four, enough to keep a couple of extras for the inevitable moment before you get to tech and you realize that you left one under your wife's Passat and boy will she be upset when it ricochet's across the garage into her watering can and wakes up the baby that just went down for a nap. Or something like that.

[w00tw00t]

Schucks. Action Auto. Napa. Probably Joe's Sports. Any automotive store will have these valve stem caps, just don't get the novelty dice ones or the fancy blinking things. I think that they are $2.99 for four,

drat.. but I like fancy blinky ones..:bigsmile: !! dammit......

enough to keep a couple of extras for the inevitable moment before you get to tech and you realize that you left one under your wife's Passat and boy will she be upset when it ricochet's across the garage into her watering can and wakes up the baby that just went down for a nap. Or something like that.

hahaha! :lmao:something tells me you say that from personal experience ... haha! obviously that didn't really happen did it? you're just advising me of a "hypothetical-could-happen" situation ...right? :bigsmile:

[pscook]

drat.. but I like fancy blinky ones..:bigsmile: !! dammit......



hahaha! :lmao:something tells me you say that from personal experience ... haha! obviously that didn't really happen did it? you're just advising me of a "hypothetical-could-happen" situation ...right? :bigsmile:

I ain't sayin', I'm just sayin'. You meet me, meet my wife and daughter, then you draw your own conclusions.

[TSweez]

Any suggestions on where to find a jig for drilling bolts and such? Or is it just as easy to throw bolts, and nuts in a vice?

[Puppet]

You can throw them in a vice and drill by hand...just take your time. I've done a few bikes this way and it's not terrible once you get the hang of it; but if it's your first time, you'll go through a few bits:bigsmile:. A drill press is easier if you have access to one.

There are jigs out there. I've seen them online, but can't remember where. I've never used them.

[TSweez]

You can throw them in a vice and drill by hand...just take your time. I've done a few bikes this way and it's not terrible once you get the hang of it; but if it's your first time, you'll go through a few bits:bigsmile:. A drill press is easier if you have access to one.

There are jigs out there. I've seen them online, but can't remember where. I've never used them.

Thanks, I guess i will just try my luck with a drill press and a hand full o' bits:bigsmile:

[w00tw00t]

i picked up a small table top vice for like 50 buks or so from sears -- works perfect for me!

[Jet City Racer]

Lockhart Phillips sells a nice little jig that even has a pilot hole for the bit.

Almost any shop is an LP dealer and can order it for you.

Also, if you're just getting into racing LP has a great Privateer program. :cool:

http://www.teamline.com/

[tophyr]

Drill a hole in a piece of wood with a bit just barely smaller than the outer (thread) diameter of the bolt. Screw the bolt into the hole - the threads will cut their way in and hold the bolt tight. Then you can clamp the wood easily.

[TSweez]

Thanks for all the idea's, I think I will start with yours Chris, that sounds like a great way of keeping the bolts secure......any ideas for nuts?

Thanks for the link for LP Jet City, I hope to maybe get some sponsors soon.

Gotta tell you all, having bridged the gap from moto X, I really love and appreciate how helpful and encouraging everyone is in the road racing world is. I've tried to explain this to all the guys I used to race with in the dirt and they can't believe that people are not so worried about being a too cool punk that can't bother with anyone, but, very helpful and friendly:D Thank you all for making this a great transition so far:)

[tophyr]

I can't think of any nuts I've ever had to safety wire :) For my axle nut I torqued it down, then drilled a 1/8" hole straight through *everything* - nut, axle, both sides - and put a large D-clip through the hole. Makes it very easy to torque it as I don't have to use a wrench - as long as the hole lines up, it's torqued.

What I would do though, if you wanna drill a nut but not thru the bolt, is secure the nut, either in a vice or by putting it on a bolt then putting the bolt in wood. Drill a starter hole perpendicular to one of the faces (as if you were drilling straight through that face), about 1/3 of the way from the hex edge, and about as deep as the bit is wide. Once that's drilled, re-set the nut so that you can drill from that hole straight under the edge to the adjacent face, aiming to make the exit 1/3 way along the face.

If my description doesn't make sense, I'll draw a diagram (but it will look like crap lol). The purpose for the starter hole is to give the bit somewhere to bite in initially - if you just started drilling under the edge from a flat face, the bit would have a very hard time getting a foothold into the metal because it'd be nearly parallel.

[TSweez]

Thanks for the advise Chris..........Sorry to hear about your misfortune in Vegas:sad: Good luck on a speedy recovery.

[Adoy]

this seems like a older thread, but I kinda have a question in relation to safety wire....
I am trying to get ready for the aug 8-9 races... be my first races :o

I was wondering where I can pick up a D-clip or R-clip for the rear axle bolt. Thanks

[TSweez]

I was wondering where I can pick up a D-clip or R-clip for the rear axle bolt. Thanks[/quote]

Try curvy girl dot com........It's not what you think:-)

[Mr Sunshine]

this seems like a older thread, but I kinda have a question in relation to safety wire....
I am trying to get ready for the aug 8-9 races... be my first races :o

I was wondering where I can pick up a D-clip or R-clip for the rear axle bolt. Thanks


McLendon's up in Woodinville. They have both of those things.

[weig17]

Actually.. curvy girl .com might be exactly what you think...



the site that will get you a good deal on Dzus and other motorcycle related items is

http://www.kurveygirl.com/

[TSweez]

Thanks for the spelling correction Tim, that was the other one in my favorites;)

[dakh]

Some more tips on drilling bolts:
- don't clamp the drill bit hard in the chuck, just have it hand-tight. most drill bits get fubar'ed when caught coming out of the other side of the bolt
- keep them lubricated, use low RPM
- quality bits certainly help a lot, especially for stuff like caliper bolts that are hardened. junk bits will last you one or two bolts and then they're useless even if they're not broken
- i personally am not shy to use 1/16th bit for bigger bolts, it is much easier to drill with a bigger drill bit and easier to safety wire too. haven't had any issues with it but haven't seen anyone else do that either.

For local people Hardwick's in Seattle (U-district) has a whole bunch of various R-clips, D-clips and such in all sizes.

[dakh]

Oh yea, one reason to safety wire the sprocket is on some bikes (GSXR) you can fashion the safety wire such that it captures the wheel spacer and makes changing wheels easier.

[Adoy]

so I have everything safety wired except my exhaust hanger bolts... I don't really know if it matters what exhaust I have or bike, but I have a 06 gsxr 600 with leo vince exhaust... so it is very short and only seems like one hanger bolt.
However, the Bolt is a very odd alan key head with round convex surface, and then of coarse a nut on the other side. I need ideas on how to safety wire it! I wanna make it to the aug 8-9 race day :D
I also heard that blue lock tight is ok, is that correct?

btw thanks everyone for the impute and help