Track/Racing updates

[XB9Racer]

Hello Everyone-
The following changes are being looked into or have already been implemented:

1. Tire wall improvements to address air-fence concerns/issues.
2. Better training and selection of cornerworkers.
3. Stricter enforcement of Tech Inspecting.
4. Single-file through pit gate.
5. Pit Steward located at track exit/pit entrance.
6. Camping at Pacific Raceways.
7. Numbers on grid cones.
8. Lunch-break activities.
9. Lottery for air-fence teardown.
10. Endurance race.
11. Superteams.
12. Young Guns.

Contact me if you have other ideas or suggestions.

Looking forward to the 2007 Race season, and beyond....

[Hypnotiq]

What's the status on getting umbrella girls for the starting grid? :D


Woohoo for Superteams being worked on. :)

[XB9Racer]

I'm sure our Prez could give up his "Ugly Registration Girl" status and possibly help you out, becoming "The Ugly Umbrella Girl". :confused:

[Mr Sunshine]

9. Lottery for air-fence teardown.

More details on this please.

[Hypnotiq]

I'm sure our Prez could give up his "Ugly Registration Girl" status and possibly help you out, becoming "The Ugly Umbrella Girl". :confused:

:eek:

*runsaway*

[Mr Sunshine]

:eek:

*runsaway screaming like a little girl*


here I fixed that for you. :D

[XB9Racer]

Air Fence Lottery goes like this:

1. Each event 10 tech slips will be drawn from tech. (8 workers and 2 alternates.)

2. Names drawn will help teardown air fence per air fence coordinators instructions.

3. After teardown is complete, air fence coordinator will sign-off racers as having completed teardown.

4. If NO sign-off, NO RACE at next event. NO EXCEPTIONS.

5. Once your name is drawn and you complete teardown as required and get signed off...you are no longer eligible for drawings that year. (teardown once a year only.)

6. If there is a conflict regarding travel time, injury, etc. you may reschedule teardown with air fence coordinator. (one per year per racer)

Hope this clarifies air fence lotto....

[Darkside]

Airfence teardown applies to all racers?
How do the novice's factor into this? Are they put at the top or what?
Who made this decision was it the E-board only or was this brought up at the general meeting and was it voted on?

[Lauralynne]

Airfence teardown applies to all racers?
How do the novice's factor into this? Are they put at the top or what?
Who made this decision was it the E-board only or was this brought up at the general meeting and was it voted on?


Novices are required to do airfence to graduate - I would assume they're exempt

[justintime2]

I would like to hear more about this as I have a tight schedule and live a considerable distance from the tracks, so this could hurt. :)
Are we not getting enough help?

[Lauralynne]

I would like to hear more about this as I have a tight schedule and live a considerable distance from the tracks, so this could hurt. :)
Are we not getting enough help?

there are never enough volunteers - and the people who DO volunteer end up doing it over and over again because nobody else is stepping up. If it were up to me - I would make volunteering during the year a requirement for club membership - if nothing else it gives people a first hand view of just HOW much work goes into a race day. Just showing up and racing and taking the club for granted (strong word - don't mean it that strong) is widespread. And the people who do volunteer end up burning out with nobody else to step up and relieve some of the load.

I think this lottery is a wonderful step towards requiring members to take an active part in the club.

[Mr Sunshine]

there are never enough volunteers - and the people who DO volunteer end up doing it over and over again because nobody else is stepping up. If it were up to me - I would make volunteering during the year a requirement for club membership - if nothing else it gives people a first hand view of just HOW much work goes into a race day. Just showing up and racing and taking the club for granted (strong word - don't mean it that strong) is widespread. And the people who do volunteer end up burning out with nobody else to step up and relieve some of the load.

I think this lottery is a wonderful step towards requiring members to take an active part in the club.


I personally am ok with the lottery for the same reasons you state. BUT the problem is this requirement isn't spelled out in the rules and I'm not sure the race director can make up new rules like this. It is pretty major for some people, like Justin, as they have a 3-4 hour trip home after the weekend. Just think if you come from Idaho? That's a 5+ hour trip home...if your last race ended at 1:30 now you have to stick around until 5-5:30. That can mean the difference between getting home safely and falling asleep at the wheel (and to prevent that having to stop at a rest area for several hours to sleep which makes you get home even later).

[Lauralynne]

I personally am ok with the lottery for the same reasons you state. BUT the problem is this requirement isn't spelled out in the rules and I'm not sure the race director can make up new rules like this. It is pretty major for some people, like Justin, as they have a 3-4 hour trip home after the weekend. Just think if you come from Idaho? That's a 5+ hour trip home...if your last race ended at 1:30 now you have to stick around until 5-5:30. That can mean the difference between getting home safely and falling asleep at the wheel (and to prevent that having to stop at a rest area for several hours to sleep which makes you get home even later).

I understand that there are still wrinkles - and hopefully they'll get ironed out. I think it's a fabulous start to getting the members involved.

Other ideas for getting the members involved?
How about one mandatory membership meeting a year?
Volunteer lotto at the beginnging of the season - when you get your race packet, you have a choice of date/duty.

Other ideas?

[Mr Sunshine]

I don't think you can force members to get more involved. The type of people I have meet so far in the club will just not be part of the club if they are forced into being more involved.

But one thing we could do is during the race season we could have the monthly general membership at 5:30pm on Saturday on race weekends. Hold it at the track. This will allow those who have to travel a distance to the track to be able to attend the general membership meetings if they want to. We would have to deal with the drag racers noise but I don't see it as a major hurdle to do this.

[Mr Sunshine]

Oh and one thing we could do is for those who don't want to tear down the air fence they could pay their way out of it. Perhaps tack on $15-$20 to their license fee for the year if they want out of doing the airfence tear down. Yes the same people will end up doing the air fence weekend after weekend BUT we could give those people who are tearing down the airfence a couple bucks or dinner or something like that using the money the people who didn't want to do it paid. Of course the people who didn't pay to get out of it would not be elligable for compensation on their weeknd of "volunteering".

[Lauralynne]

I don't think you can force members to get more involved. The type of people I have meet so far in the club will just not be part of the club if they are forced into being more involved.

But one thing we could do is during the race season we could have the monthly general membership at 5:30pm on Saturday on race weekends. Hold it at the track. This will allow those who have to travel a distance to the track to be able to attend the general membership meetings if they want to. We would have to deal with the drag racers noise but I don't see it as a major hurdle to do this.

the wrinkle with that is the the club officials have just spent an entirely too long and likely hot hard day working. Now they have to keep their head about them and run/participate in a meeting that runs another hour or more. I wouldn't ask them to do that. I think that asking the members to be part of the club isn't asking too much. And the ones too stubborn to participate? Shame on them - apathy is rampant in the club already - to encourage it isn't helpful. We've got a chance to make the club better - why WOULDN'T you want to be part of it???

(speaking generally of course)

[Lauralynne]

Oh and one thing we could do is for those who don't want to tear down the air fence they could pay their way out of it. Perhaps tack on $15-$20 to their license fee for the year if they want out of doing the airfence tear down. Yes the same people will end up doing the air fence weekend after weekend BUT we could give those people who are tearing down the airfence a couple bucks or dinner or something like that using the money the people who didn't want to do it paid. Of course the people who didn't pay to get out of it would not be elligable for compensation on their weeknd of "volunteering".


ok - so there's a decent idea. Club member ship fee tiered by level of volunteering. $75 if you volunteer 5 days/duties. $100 if you volunteer 3 days/duties. $150 for no volunteering.

I don't know if there's enough volunteering opportunities to do that...but it's an idea anyway. And some things like airfence setup/tear down would have a higher value than say tech inspection or something less time consuming.

[Steve]

I don't think the real issue here is the idea of the lottery etc. I think it's how this idea came about...

I think it would be hard for many people (not me so much) to find out in the riders meeting on Saturday they have to stay to tear down airfence on Sunday. Certainly there has to be a better way.

Novices should be given their airfence date in NRC. Then from there detemine how many more people we need. And from that number, do a lottery now for the entire year so people can plan appropriately. If they can't do their day, they pay up like $50.00 bucks. And I'm sure we could find a few "volunteers" that would be happy to do it for $50.00 bucks.

Oh, and once the person does it or pays, they are exempt for two years (or so) until everyone else has had a turn.

Just my .02.

[whtnxt?]

I belong to a sportsman's' club who runs much the same way; annual dues and mandatory 10 hours volunteer work (usually the bar for me). Other ideas that are running through my mind are class airfence weekends (Supersport first weekend, superbike second, vintage third, etc), free beverage or two, t-shirt, etc.
Just thoughts here to make it enticing, rather then dreaded, to volunteer.

[gazman]

well, i say that everyone needs to just help out with the air fense. I plan on doing it a lot this year. It shoudn't come down to this. This is a club and everyone needs to put in sometime to keep it going. It makes me laugh how people take the club for granted. I know we pay but that usually goes towards paying to rent the track.

A single file into the pit gate is just dumb. There isn't enoght space for just one line of traffic. This has been an issue before. We need to put up a big sign that says pit pass middle lane, paying lane right. Left lane for passing traffic only.

One issue that should be taken care of is the time we can enter the track. I think to open the gate at 7 am is silly. All the track days allow us to go in at 6am and this gives everyone plentley of time to get set up. To have to wait to get in, set up, and tech inpect takes an hour and 1/2. As a novice last year, I was always rushed just to get ready for the 9 am pratice. If you are paying to get in, the line moves very slow and if we would enter the track at 6:30, it would help everyone a lot.

To add to the rushing of getting ready, the tech guys last year did a terrible job. I don't want to say it was there fault but because there was so many bikes to inpect, they had no choice to do a quick look at pass the bike. When my bike was in tech, all they did was look at it and didn't even check to see if the safety wire was in the right place. This all comes down to time. The guys who tech do awesome when they are not rushed.

What is the reason for the 7 am opening anyway??

I think that covers what I have to say. Remember, this is a club and we all need to work together to get everything right. Just because you pay doesn't mean anything. There are countless volenteer hours that go into the club and I think most forget about that. This isn't the AMA. ( we wish :) ) I just hope that racers are willing to put in some time this year to help out. I know many do but we need everyone to.

Thanks

[Mr Sunshine]

One issue that should be taken care of is the time we can enter the track. I think to open the gate at 7 am is silly. All the track days allow us to go in at 6am and this gives everyone plentley of time to get set up. To have to wait to get in, set up, and tech inpect takes an hour and 1/2. As a novice last year, I was always rushed just to get ready for the 9 am pratice. If you are paying to get in, the line moves very slow and if we would enter the track at 6:30, it would help everyone a lot.

What is the reason for the 7 am opening anyway??



As the one usually at the front of the line the gate for the track isn't usually opened by the track until 6:30. I believe the contracts gives us the track at 6am. The reason for the delay is to give the race day staff some time to get setup. The problem is that people will just stand at registration waiting for them to get setup. Not cool.

Now if the camping deal works out...just come down the night before, get all setup, sleep in inside your trailer and have fun in the evenings.

I think more people need to stay over Saturday night at Pacific...there's not enough people to party with. Spokane is tons of fun because of this. Pacific is pretty bland.

Note this year Cinco De Myao (May 5th) is a Saturday at a Pacific weekend...I expect everyone to stay hang out and generally look at the drag racers stupid like. :)

[gazman]

hey, I am down to sleep at PR. I didn't know we could.

[justintime2]

No offense to the idea, but I don't like the sound of having to pay additional cash for an already expensive sport just because I can't stay the extra time in doing more air fence tear downs. I would like to but it's just not usually in the cards, but when it is I will. I think it's easy for someone who lives a half hour from the track to say 'everyone should just do more', but it's not that simple for some of us.

For those like myself who have long drives to get to the tracks, we are already paying more in gas to get there and it would suck to get hit with another fee because we couldn't stay to help because of it. Just some thoughts from my side of the fence. :)

[Lauralynne]

No offense to the idea, but I don't like the sound of having to pay additional cash for an already expensive sport just because I can't stay the extra time in doing more air fence tear downs. I would like to but it's just not usually in the cards, but when it is I will. I think it's easy for someone who lives a half hour from the track to say 'everyone should just do more', but it's not that simple for some of us.

For those like myself who have long drives to get to the tracks, we are already paying more in gas to get there and it would suck to get hit with another fee because we couldn't stay to help because of it. Just some thoughts from my side of the fence. :)

So come early and set it up. with enough volunteers, we're talking an extra 30 minutes Sunday after racing.

We have a club with roughly 300 members (best I can tell) and we can't seem to gather 10-15 people to tear down air fence that we ALL benefit from.

What about one day a year corner working? you miss out on a day of racing but help the club? Or volunteer for something to do with registration? The point isn't in inconvinience anyone, the point is to involve everyone in the club behind the scenes and not just showing up to race. There are other areas to volunteer for as well - air fence is just the easiest example. Without volunteers, our club ceases to exist and racing is either more expensive - traveling to Oregon and beyond - or is out of the question.

It's widespread - I'm told that membership meetings used to have 25-30 people on a regular basis - now we're excited to see 15-20 MAX. We're burning out the volunteers who show up on a regular basis. I can't speak for the corner working captain, but with enough volunteers, I would imagine that shift corner working would be possible - only miss 1/2 day of racing. The point is that it's OUR club and without OUR input, the apathy will continue to grow.

ps. your drive is a mere 40 minutes more than mine.

[justintime2]

Interesting post Laura, but I know more about volunteering than you could possibly ever understand or compete with. And as for "ps. your drive is a mere 40 minutes more than mine.", I don't think you'd like to compare schedules either. :)

[Mr Sunshine]

hey, I am down to sleep at PR. I didn't know we could.

At least last year you were able to sleep at PR on Saturday night. What I'm waiting for is the announcement on how camping will be dealt with on Friday night. That way I can just head down after work or just stick around after the track day on Friday.

[Steve]

A single file into the pit gate is just dumb. There isn't enoght space for just one line of traffic. This has been an issue before. We need to put up a big sign that says pit pass middle lane, paying lane right. Left lane for passing traffic only.
Thanks

I think you're misunderstanding this one. They want a single file into the pit gate, not the track entrance.

[Steve]

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Now if the camping deal works out...just come down the night before, get all setup, sleep in inside your trailer and have fun in the evenings.

I think more people need to stay over Saturday night at Pacific...there's not enough people to party with. Spokane is tons of fun because of this. Pacific is pretty bland.


Not all of us have an RV or really want to sleep in a trailer. In my case ( and I would bet in many other people's case) I have other responsibilities on the weekend that preclude me from spending the entire time at PR. Plus with no shower facilities I think I'll pass, especially after a day of racing. But that is my choice so I'm not bitching about it.

Being able to leave the trailer and camp Friday to Saturday after AF would be a HUGE plus. Even if I don't do the AF day, just being able to have the possibility of setting up on Friday would be sweet. I do hope that issue gets resolved.

But back to the main issue of the thread....How is it someone can decide how aifence is all of the sudden going to be run?

[Mr Sunshine]

What about one day a year corner working? you miss out on a day of racing but help the club?

Here is where we disagree. You can not make a requirement that causes people to miss the heats which they are part of the club in the first place.


Justin as to schedules...from my point of view I do make alot of time for the club and race weekends. I understand that is not possible for everyone to do so.

The reasoning behind my suggestion is based on a percieved desire of WMRRA to make volunteering a requirment to being a member of the club. If this desire is not real then forget my suggestion. With that said, the main thing here is that people need to be motivated somehow to pony up the time to help out the club. The club does not run itself. I've been told by a club member who's been around for awhile that things in this club seem to happen when someone comes around with some energy to get changes done.

This is very different than a business although to make this club run, act and look professional it needs to be run like a business. So when there aren't enough people ponying up their time on their own some prodding has to happen.

So my question to you, what is your goal with regards to the club? Mine is to have a place to compete but I also would like to make this club become more than it is today. (I could spend a long time writting my thoughts here but I rather talk about it in person as it is easier to make sure what I say is understood)

[Mr Sunshine]

Not all of us have an RV or really want to sleep in a trailer. In my case ( and I would bet in many other people's case) I have other responsibilities on the weekend that preclude me from spending the entire time at PR. Plus with no shower facilities I think I'll pass, especially after a day of racing. But that is my choice so I'm not bitching about it.

Being able to leave the trailer and camp Friday to Saturday after AF would be a HUGE plus. Even if I don't do the AF day, just being able to have the possibility of setting up on Friday would be sweet. I do hope that issue gets resolved.

But back to the main issue of the thread....How is it someone can decide how aifence is all of the sudden going to be run?

On that last weekend track management also had an option to leave equipment there. It was half the cost of camping (remember the track still "theirs" until saturday morning at like 6am). So I would make sure Nico knows that along with camping you would like to have the ability to leave your trailer there over Friday night.

BTW: There are showers at Pacific Raceways. My wife says they are actually decent. The only downer is they are quarter operated but if I recall correctly she got away with less than a $1 and her being a women with more hair than you I bet it'd cost you a $.25 :)

[Steve]

The only downer is they are quarter operated but if I recall correctly she got away with less than a $1 and her being a women with more hair than you I bet it'd cost you a $.25 :)

LOL...if that....

[piper907]

I personally am ok with the lottery for the same reasons you state. BUT the problem is this requirement isn't spelled out in the rules and I'm not sure the race director can make up new rules like this. It is pretty major for some people, like Justin, as they have a 3-4 hour trip home after the weekend. Just think if you come from Idaho? That's a 5+ hour trip home...if your last race ended at 1:30 now you have to stick around until 5-5:30. That can mean the difference between getting home safely and falling asleep at the wheel (and to prevent that having to stop at a rest area for several hours to sleep which makes you get home even later).

+1 thanks. :)

[geddyt]

Yeah, I can totally see both sides on this one. I'm a ways away just like Justin and Piper, plus I'm sure my schedule would put anyone's to shame with its absurdity (12 hour shifts, half nights, half days, 500 hours of overtime per year). However, I still want the club to be cool as well (and since, being a novice, I've never actually seen the club yet, I'm picturing huge parades, screaming fans, dental floss-clad umbrella girls, and massive victory champaign bottles, right?...).

So, although it would just be freakin' impossible for me to volunteer all that much, I would have no problem kicking back a little more money to keep things moving in the right direction. I mean, what's an extra $20 or $50 or whatever in a $10K per year sport, if it means a safer track or a less stressful morning or the ability to camp on Friday night or other changes that benefit me? (Hell, I lose $20 every time I drive my van up a hill...)

[341]

I would like to hear more about this as I have a tight schedule and live a considerable distance from the tracks, so this could hurt. :)
Are we not getting enough help?

Are we not getting enough help? You're kidding right? There has never been enough help. Why do you think that we'd beg every (every? yes, every) race for more cornerworkers and airfence helpers. I live in Wenatchee, so it is a three hour commute to wherever, and my wife and I worked the races. We started setup at about 6 and were done at about 6. My pity for your tight schedule is pretty low, probably a good thing that I'm not working anymore, now I just get to add to the problem. Cool. Troy341

[Lugnut]

That post just about sums it up....Some racers don't even know it's a problem and others are working tripple time to keep events going. A lack of communication?

I have long hoped the club would make corner workers a paid position with trained/skilled people. It always sucks to hear at 8:45 in the morning that we are not racing till we get more volunteers. I think it should be a cost on the form when you register for an event, just like airfence and medics. When I crash I want someone to say "Stay right there buddy we've got the morphine coming" not some pimple faced kid screaming "Oh my god he's f**king dead!!" while trying to pull off my still strapped helmet.

As for the air fence setup and teardown I think ALL racers have to do it, novice and expert. It's our club and every member has to help. I don't like the lottery method but I understand it would be easier to impliment than say an online volunteer calender through the WMRRA website where racers could enter there name and bike # on a date/s that would best fit their schedule. Also don't even bother to fine $ people who don't do it, there's just too many people out there who would buy themselves out of a responsibility. Definately no vounteer work=no race

[Mr Sunshine]

As for the air fence setup and teardown I think ALL racers have to do it, novice and expert. It's our club and every member has to help. I don't like the lottery method but I understand it would be easier to impliment than say an online volunteer calender through the WMRRA website where racers could enter there name and bike # on a date/s that would best fit their schedule. Also don't even bother to fine $ people who don't do it, there's just too many people out there who would buy themselves out of a responsibility. Definately no vounteer work=no race

First I have to laugh at the "Oh my god he's dead comment" but I feel bad about laughing at it because it's a pretty serious situation.


As to the implementation of a system where people go "Ok I'm available here please schedule me for one of these times" I say that is not a big deal to set this up, and this comes as being the person who would be implementing all of this and helping in getting the system going.

I do think for the required volunteer setup we do need to make the schedules at the same time we release the number information.

[timk]

As to the implementation of a system where people go "Ok I'm available here please schedule me for one of these times" I say that is not a big deal to set this up
I think the big problem with this type of system isn't that it would be hard to set up, but that so many more racers are willing to volunteer to do airfence in June when the weather is likely to be nice than in April & October when it's likely to be cold and wet. The lottery solves that.

[Mr Sunshine]

I think the big problem with this type of system isn't that it would be hard to set up, but that so many more racers are willing to volunteer to do airfence in June when the weather is likely to be nice than in April & October when it's likely to be cold and wet. The lottery solves that.

Makes sense. If anything though we need to have notified people of which date they will need to work well before that weekend so they can adjust their plans.

[Lauralynne]

Makes sense. If anything though we need to have notified people of which date they will need to work well before that weekend so they can adjust their plans.
with alternates - just in case

[Mr Sunshine]

with alternates - just in case


hell no. if someone doesn't show up on Sunday morning then someone who hasn't been choosen by the lottery is on the hook and will be choosen right then and there. The person who doesn't show up (without giving prior notice and finding a replacement for themselves) will be called out. This will hopefully provide some peer pressure to show. :)

[Steve]

The question still remains.....

Where did this new rule come from?

[XB9Racer]

Steve-
What "new rule" are you referring to? If it's the air fence lottery you are asking about, it is something that is currently being discussed by your Race Day Staff. There is NO "new rule" in place...we are just trying to get each and every member of the club to do his/her share. Hope this helps... :)

[Lauralynne]

so...the bottom line is trying to come up with ideas to get the club members involved in THEIR club. Instead of petty internet arguing (I've deleted my posts intentionally) how about we all try to figure out if the air fence lotto doesn't agree with your schedule how CAN we get you involved in volunteering? Throw more ideas out there. Even coming up with constructive ideas would, in my book, be considered a type of volunteering.

[justintime2]

Laura,
Since you erased your posts I erased mine as well, as no one would have been able to follow what we were talking about or responding to. It had gotten completely unproductive anyway. :)

[Mr Sunshine]

Justin, put down the crack pipe (I sold that from Joel...he just has the best phrases).

Seriously. I know you are a busy man and have time constraints.

I have one simple question. If this time last year the race director came in and said, "There is this going to be a airfence tear down lottery...." would you have joined this club and began racing?

[justintime2]

Yes I would have joined...there has to be a better way that fits everyones ability to help though. :)
Cracks out dated man...it's oxycotin now (I'll have to check my pharmaceutical book on the spelling for that one)

[Mr Sunshine]

Cracks out dated man...it's oxycotin now (I'll have to check my pharmaceutical book on the spelling for that one)

If that is anything like vicodin then I rather come into turn 2 with the throttle stuck at 100% and no brakes. I had a vicodin when my wisdom teeth were taken out. Those dreams were insain!!!


Back on subject. So...why is this anything different if you would have joined in the first place?

[Steve]

Steve-
What "new rule" are you referring to? If it's the air fence lottery you are asking about, it is something that is currently being discussed by your Race Day Staff. There is NO "new rule" in place...we are just trying to get each and every member of the club to do his/her share. Hope this helps... :)


Thanks Jeff. That is what I was referring to as this seemed like a new rule to me and I wasn't aware it was under discussion still. I am all for making it work as long as we have more than a 48 hour notice if possible. And if you need any help on my end putting together a spreadsheet or what not, let me know offline. I would even be willing to to be a POC for changes etc throughout the season.

[justintime2]

Back on subject. So...why is this anything different if you would have joined in the first place?
Because my life and schedule have changed since I started...

[justintime2]

I think there should be an online calendar with all the open slots for air fence, corner worker, etc. Then each member could not only see where the gaps were, but sign up on-line for each one they were available for. We would then have an easier process for people to get involved/volunteer, and have a clearer picture heading into race day of what we were missing. :)

[Mr Sunshine]

I think there should be an online calendar with all the open slots for air fence, corner worker, etc. Then each member could not only see where the gaps were, but sign up on-line for each one they were available for. We would then have an easier process for people to get involved/volunteer, and have a clearer picture heading into race day of what we were missing. :)


See TimK's post. People aren't going to volunteer in April or October cause its cold and most likely raining.

[geddyt]

I don't care about cold or rain or whatever. In fact, being a puss when it comes to riding in the rain, that would be a PERFECT day for me to corner-work! The reason I need a choice as to what weekends I could work and which weekends I couldn't would be that I can't be at half the weekends AT ALL, let alone to volunteer. There will be some race weekends where I will literally be getting off work at 5:00 in the morning, driving straight to the track, and then driving straight back to work after my last heat. Then there are other weekends where I'll be squaa in the middle of two weeks off. In the latter case, I'd have NO problem helping out--rain, shine, frogshowers, whatever. But I'd have to have the ability to choose to make that happen.

Also, as far as airfence teardown/setup, I had a plan for that, too. I figure I'll tell my friends that want to come along and help me out that if I pick up their gate fees (which I'd have to do anyway to get my lazy/poor-ass friends to show up), they'll have to help me with the airfence. That'll get a few more bodies involved.

I'll also "volunteer" a keg of Rockfish Porter (http://www.anacortesrockfish.com/brewery.cfm) in the back of my van for the May Spokane weekend (after racing, of course!). Does that count?...

[kaneohekid]

I'll also "volunteer" a keg of Rockfish Porter (http://www.anacortesrockfish.com/brewery.cfm) in the back of my van for the May Spokane weekend (after racing, of course!). Does that count?...

what kind of van do you own so I know to be on the look out for it during the spokane races...... :D

[Mr Sunshine]

You guys get all drunk and what not so you feel like crap the next day....then I can spank your asses!

[geddyt]

what kind of van do you own so I know to be on the look out for it during the spokane races...... :D

Looks something like this (I'm gonna try removing all those stickers, as they're the previous owner's).

[Mr Sunshine]

Looks something like this (I'm gonna try removing all those stickers, as they're the previous owner's).


Oh man that huge white side of the van just screams to get the sticker "Beer" plastered all over the side of it.

Think of it as a huge generic beer van. :)

[geddyt]

Nah, I'm taking the stickers off so I can use the side of the van as a projector screen. But we can "BEER" the back, I suppose...

[Mr Sunshine]

Nah, I'm taking the stickers off so I can use the side of the van as a projector screen. But we can "BEER" the back, I suppose...


If you have problems removing the stickers I saw something that might help.

http://www.kleanstripauto.com/autocatalog.pdf

Page 3: Decal & Adhesive Removal

[geddyt]

Thanks, I'll check that out. I was just gonna try a few seconds with a heat gun.

[Mr Sunshine]

Thanks, I'll check that out. I was just gonna try a few seconds with a heat gun.


Just a comment. I've never used the stuff. I only saw it. Let me know if it works well ok? ;)

[Moto]

What's the status on getting umbrella girls for the starting grid?

Motos got umbrella girls for you. ask Bones who got him the girls for the latest ESM shoot and how much they cost him...

:cool:

[FISHGUY]

Motos got umbrella girls for you. ask Bones who got him the girls for the latest ESM shoot and how much they cost him...

:cool:


EMS AND TOO MUCH....!!!!!!!! NOT WORTH IT AT ALL...

[SV Nut]

I am new, but I have an idea for the air fence. We should race motorcycles around a road course and who ever wins goes home losers stay to clean up a life saving barrier:) I am just being silly, no way to please everyone. I am just glad to have a club that supports this. I came from WERA, now that is expensive!!

[Tsmith]

Motos got umbrella girls for you. ask Bones who got him the girls for the latest ESM shoot and how much they cost him...

:cool:

pshim going to bring my own umbrella girls :P