Mentors?

[Perferd]

So what and who exactly are mentors? I am seriously considering starting up this wmrra thing since I have put so much money into my bike and several different track schools lol.

[Perferd]

btw I did the sully school a couple times so doesnt that mean I only have to do the classroom stuff ($50) then buy my novice thingamajig ($55)...

[timk]

Mentors are WMRRA expert racers who volunteer to help novices figure out which way the track goes, where the registration & tech tents are, where the beer garden is (it's always good to buy your mentor a beer :) ), etc.

And I think you're right about the school requirements, but to get an official answer you should probably email Diane at novice.rep@wmrra.com

[Mr Sunshine]

Section B, subsection 13 of the rule book states:


Novice Riders:
All new riders to roadracing are consi dered to be novice riders.
Requirements for a WMRRA Novice Race License shall be one of the following:
Attendance at WMRRA New Rider Clinic CLASSROOM session AND successful completion of the WMRRA New Rider Clinic TRACK session.
Successful completion of an APPROVED motorcycle RACING class (class must be approved by WMRRA Referee and/or Race Director) AND successful completion of a WMRRA New Rider Clinic CLASSROOM session. The prospective Novice MUST provide the following to WMRRA Registration Officials:
A copy of the Motorcycle Race Class completion certificate.
A copy of the NRC classroom completion certificate.
A letter from the prospective Novice requesting issuance of a WMRRA Novice Race license based upon the above requirements.


At the NRC Classroom session at the beginning of this year Mike Sullivan's Racing School qualified (there might be a level requirement there).


Also if you are starting to count how much it costs to race, you getting into the wrong sport. :)

As to mentor's unless you have a racer friend in mind a mentor will be assigned to you.

[Perferd]

LOL I am not counting the money I was just saying that...Mikes site says if you pass the school all you have to do is buy the novice dohicky (L2)...

I am still thinking and reading, I am not sure yet. The one thing I am for sure is my bike is no longer a street bike so next logical thing is race it right lol...

[Mr Sunshine]

LOL I am not counting the money I was just saying that...Mikes site says if you pass the school all you have to do is buy the novice dohicky (L2)...

I am still thinking and reading, I am not sure yet. The one thing I am for sure is my bike is no longer a street bike so next logical thing is race it right lol...

The "novice doohicky" would be the "novice racing license". :)

Hell if you are even thinking about racing sign up for the second NRC, do the classroom and it should help you make up your mind then. Just be sure you have the right gear, prep the bike and come make a showing at the first novice race heat after the classroom (pending approval of the sully class requirement).

I haven't taken Sully's class yet but does he work on racing starts? That is the one thing that I was like "WTF?" during the on-track portion of the NRC. Ok I wasn't quite "WTF?" it was more like "What one earth am I about to do?" :) But boy that sure was fun.

[Moto]

Perferd the Sullivan School counts towards WMRRA.

i've been trying to get Perfie to go racing...he's got the body work now...baby steps right lol.

[mygrassisblu]

Thatman you should without question volunteer for Novice Rep. next year.

[Mr Sunshine]

Thatman you should without question volunteer for Novice Rep. next year.

I could but...

Diane does such a good job today and I need more time to answer the weird questions.

Thanks for the vote of convidence though.

[Perferd]

Sully's school in all about teaching you the race line for the specific track ie. PR,SRP, or PIR...The instructors will give you pointers on how you look and what you need to do which is pretty cool too...I did L2 twice but hear the L3 is a bit more about actually racing...

Yes I am taking baby steps but its all adding up to starting the novice whatchamacallit. I am having bodywork put on now but need to find out more on the safety wiring...I am so lazy I would rather just give my bike to someone and tell them to have at it prep it for me and give them money ahahahahahaha

[mygrassisblu]

I could but...

Diane does such a good job today and I need more time to answer the weird questions.

Thanks for the vote of convidence though.


........next year Diane may want to do something different.. You have my vote early!

[Mr Sunshine]

Sully's school in all about teaching you the race line for the specific track ie. PR,SRP, or PIR...The instructors will give you pointers on how you look and what you need to do which is pretty cool too...I did L2 twice but hear the L3 is a bit more about actually racing...

Yes I am taking baby steps but its all adding up to starting the novice whatchamacallit. I am having bodywork put on now but need to find out more on the safety wiring...I am so lazy I would rather just give my bike to someone and tell them to have at it prep it for me and give them money ahahahahahaha

Contact Rick @ SBMotorsports. At the start of the season he said they are offering a service to safety wire your bike and make sure it passes tech for something like $120. That's a deal in my mind (I would have used him but my bike was already prepped). Since you are so lazy his phone number is 253-445-3795.

[snake]

Sully's school in all about teaching you the race line for the specific track ie. PR,SRP, or PIR...The instructors will give you pointers on how you look and what you need to do which is pretty cool too...I did L2 twice but hear the L3 is a bit more about actually racing...

Yes I am taking baby steps but its all adding up to starting the novice whatchamacallit. I am having bodywork put on now but need to find out more on the safety wiring...I am so lazy I would rather just give my bike to someone and tell them to have at it prep it for me and give them money ahahahahahaha
You lazy bastard. I would get bored up there and wire it myself for something to do?

[Perferd]

Since you are so lazy his phone number is 253-445-3795.

hahahahaha you are awesome :D

[Perferd]

You lazy bastard. I would get bored up there and wire it myself for something to do?

Yes I am that lazy :eek:

but its not only that I just dont have the tools or space to drill out bolts and what not...

[tarheel]

Rick from SB Motorsports will drill your bike completely for safety wiring for about $100 bucks. You can contact him through the WMRRA homepage.

[Perferd]

Thanks....Already emailed him hope to hear something back tomorrow...

[Mr Sunshine]

Thanks....Already emailed him hope to hear something back tomorrow...

eMail? The last time I eMailed him it took a few days. He's a busy man...pick up the phone! :)

[Perferd]

I am in canada and its 70cents a minute...I am cheap and I am lazy lol

[Ex Presidente]

Having someone safety wire your bike is GREAT...but ultimatley you are responsible, so if something is missed and you don't know or have lack of knowledge on how to do it, then you may not be racing that day!

Luke
WMRRA President

[Perferd]

Reading the rules it says like 5 things need to be safetly wired plus I have seen racers bikes and track days so I think I get it. However there is no way possible for me to be drilling out bolts with a stock tool kit and a pack of chewing gum LOL....

[Mr Sunshine]

Having someone safety wire your bike is GREAT...but ultimatley you are responsible, so if something is missed and you don't know or have lack of knowledge on how to do it, then you may not be racing that day!

Luke
WMRRA President


Good point to reenforce.

[Mr Sunshine]

Reading the rules it says like 5 things need to be safetly wired plus I have seen racers bikes and track days so I think I get it. However there is no way possible for me to be drilling out bolts with a stock tool kit and a pack of chewing gum LOL....


ya you need a knitting needle too. :D

[Ex Presidente]

Actually it is a lot more than 5 things :)

Luke

[Perferd]

1. Oil drains.
2. Oil system caps and plugs.
3. Fork oil drain plugs.
4. Oil filter plate bolts.
5. Spin on oil filters must use a hose clamp that is safety wired to prevent rotation.
6. Water cooling systems drain plugs and filler caps.
7. Oil and fuel lines must be clamped or safety wired.

I just saw like close to 5 things and wrote that....damn you guys get picky here LOL...

[mygrassisblu]

front and rear brake bolts, front pinch bolts, front axle nut, rear axle nut, exhaust bracket are some others.
And what ever else you dont want falling off!

I'll let the others chime in about being picky.

[Mr Sunshine]

1. Oil drains.
2. Oil system caps and plugs.
3. Fork oil drain plugs.
4. Oil filter plate bolts.
5. Spin on oil filters must use a hose clamp that is safety wired to prevent rotation.
6. Water cooling systems drain plugs and filler caps.
7. Oil and fuel lines must be clamped or safety wired.

I just saw like close to 5 things and wrote that....damn you guys get picky here LOL...

Because it is a matter of life or death. Not just your own but the other people on the track with you.

[mygrassisblu]

I knew that wouldnt take long.

[Perferd]

I was just going by what the rulebook said...bare minimum for me almost to the point of breaking the rules is where I want to be LOL...

[Mr Sunshine]

I was just going by what the rulebook said...bare minimum for me almost to the point of breaking the rules is where I want to be LOL...

Ya I understand...no need to do more work than needed.

[Perferd]

LOL nevermind...

[Hypnotiq]

Actually it is a lot more than 5 things :)
Luke

Wasnt your bike missing a little wire at NRC in March? :p

[irnieracing]

when does the 2007 season start?
If the only way to obtain a racing license is with a classroom session, and certified track day, when are these sessions taking place?

Are they in conjuction with a real track day, as driving from Kelowna BC to Seattle for just a racing license would suck..

[redrider2]

2007 NRC schedule should be up in the first part of November.

[Mr Sunshine]

when does the 2007 season start?
If the only way to obtain a racing license is with a classroom session, and certified track day, when are these sessions taking place?

Are they in conjuction with a real track day, as driving from Kelowna BC to Seattle for just a racing license would suck..

There are two ways.

1) NRC Classroom and NRC Track portion. The classroom is usually done two weeks prior to the first event. The track portion is done on the Saturday of the race weekend. If you pass the classroom portion and the track portion you can run your first novice heat on Sunday.

2) NRC Classroom and a completion of a certified track school. The only track schools I know for sure WMRRA accepts is Sullivan's Racing School if you take the Beginner Racer session and 2-Fast. So you still have to go to the classroom portion the couple of weeks prior but you can enter in for the Novice heats on Saturday and Sunday.


Frankly even if you have done the Sully or 2-Fast school I would still do the NRC classroom as it gets you introduced to your mentor and you get a practice grid and start. Novice's can't seem to ever grid so the more practice you get, the better off you'll be.